Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Gun Control has it promoted or discouraged the types of events that has happened at Virginia Tech?

I'm starting to think that the young man and those like him at Virginia Tech and Colombine, may have hesitated if they knew that there was a very good chance that some of those he was attempting to kill were carrying guns as well.


At the very least,I would bet if some of those students or professors were carrying it would have reduced the amount of those fatally shot.


Do you think that you would feel more at ease if you knew your childs classroom teacher, principal were trained and armed to defend against an attacker?


At this point those who are intending on using weapons for crimes have them accessable ( legally or illegally) and we can't always rely on police protection.Gun Control has it promoted or discouraged the types of events that has happened at Virginia Tech?
Not certain it has done either. There are some things here that are facts.





No law could have prevented this, gun control or anything.


The police could not have prevented this.





There are two possible things that could have and neither is very pretty.





First, there was ample warning that the guy was seriously unstable, had someone blown the whistle to the appropriate authorities the man may have been placed into custody, that would have at least forestalled if not prevented the murders. The scary point is obivous, if we as a society are constantly blowing the whistle on suspected mental cases, there will be a lot of people being picked up for their eccentricities, even those who would never harm anyone and it plays right into the hands of the heavy hand of socialist re-education.





Second, had an adult with a weapon been around there could have been a chance that they could have either disabled the shooter or scared him off. There is always the danger here for innocent people to be injured, but it is one risk I would prefer if I had been there disarmed.Gun Control has it promoted or discouraged the types of events that has happened at Virginia Tech?
Amen sista! Cowards always chose helpless targets to make their ';point';. They couldn't get out their message of evil and domination if they got shot at before doing the deed. The biggest example is 9/11. Cowards!!
Those are my thoughts exactly! Less gun control, less fear!
The gun control crowd has made us all sitting ducks. I say all law abiding citizens should carry a weapon. It looks like every massacre is worse than the last. If all law abiding citizens had a weapon, maybe the number of murdered would have been less at VT. It is easy to learn how to handle a gun. It is easy to learn how to use a gun. It is a hell of a lot easier to defend yourself from homicidal maniacs with a gun. The group that needs a gun the most is the weakest prey. That would be women. A gun is the great 'equalizer'. The police are simply not able to defend citizens during the 30 seconds when they need it the most.
Only one policy has ever been shown to deter mass murder: concealed-carry laws. In a comprehensive study of all public, multiple-shooting incidents in America between 1977 and 1999, the inestimable economists John Lott and Bill Landes found that concealed-carry laws were the only laws that had any beneficial effect.





And the effect was not insignificant. States that allowed citizens to carry concealed handguns reduced multiple-shooting attacks by 60 percent and reduced the death and injury from these attacks by nearly 80 percent.





Apparently, even crazy people prefer targets that can't shoot back. The reason schools are consistently popular targets for mass murderers is precisely because of all the idiotic ';Gun-Free School Zone'; laws.
there wouldn't have been any hesitation, and while we that type of environment would work in a perfect world, it would cause a lot of other problems in real life. if anything the idea of others being armed as well just makes it all the more exciting; the issue isn't whether or not you're going to run up against resistance - it's like suggesting that women won't get raped if a rapist knew that there was a good chance that he could be raped himself. the issue you're flirting with is whether or not more guns, and easier access to guns by the general public can help to create a safer society at the end of the day. the answer is that it would not; being in a possession of a handgun requires emotional maturity that the average person doesn't possess, and you can never get it without being through some situations with a gun first. you can't just carry a gun, or be trained to use a gun, and then be expected to do the right thing when you've never had to use that gun before.





these are kids who are still fascinated and infatuated with guns because it's foreign to them. then they use the gun, and can't deal with what it does and end up killing themselves. you're talking about someone being able to process what just happened after they've killed tens of people without reason; eventually they're going to have to deal with that on some level. the average person isn't going to make it through that.





if those students use the guns every day, if they're living that type of life and in they're in those situations, then yeah that's probable. but you're talking about privileged kids coming into a situation where they've never seen anyone be shot at, never seen anyone hit by a bullet and never had to pull the trigger themselves. some of those kids probably never even hear shots go off before in real life. what good is it going to do them to be armed when they can get nervous and end up hitting some kid behind the shooter or whatever the case may be?





schools need more security; actual cops with the authority to take someone out whatever the case may be - it's quite obvious by now that this isn't the case of someone shooting someone, and you can work out the details of why later. these are kids that are going to shoot a plethora of individuals, then take their own life because they are depressed. we have to change the laws in this country and the way in which we deal with these types of situations. they're still talking about the kids state of mind, what he's been through, how troubled he is. who really gives a *; he's killed thirty people, and he took his own life, so what does any of that matter. you can't prevent this type of thing, but you can minimize the damage that occurs ...
In this case, the criminal killed himself, therefore robbing anyone of seeing justice done. I believe that there are too many people who do these horrible things, believe that it doesn't matter because the legal system will not do anything to punish them. If they had a fear that the consequences of there actions, would be swift and certain, then maybe second thoughts would be there, but our namby pamby society, protects the criminal's rights and to heck with the victims. Do I believe more gun control is the answer? NO. We don/t even enforce the laws we do have. We have too many liberal judges and lawyers, who are afraid to punish criminals for fear of losing money and power. I wonder if the outcome would have been different had a teacher or another student had intervened with a handgun. The one guy who was mistakenly detained after his two friend were shot in the elevator, what if he had had a gun? and protected himself, maybe 30 other people would have been alive. There are many states that have concealed handgun classes. The one I took was very strict about not only gun safety, but with lectures from attorneys about the consequences of using a firearm, protecting yourself or not. I was raised around guns and raised my children, now grown, how to shoot and be aware of your surroundings and where the bullet is going to end up. They couldn't even have a .22 rifle until they took a mandatory hunter safety course. This guy, in whatever state of mind he was in, was going to commit murder by whatever means necessary, he just chose to use a gun. He could have done the same thing with a Ford F-150 pick-up, driving into a crowd, or used materials similar to the Ok City bombing. So, no, gun control would NOT have stopped this guy from killing someone, but maybe more people with concealed carry license and a weapon could have averted this tragedy. Law enforcement can't be there 24/7.
have you ever heard of a disgruntled cop going to the police station and killing 32 people? NO, because most would shoot back
wow. you related stalin or somethin?? this kinda s~~t only happens in america. now ye dont no wat to do!! ha ha ha ha!!!! it so typical of the american ';people';
THELASTID, where have you been keeping your head???? Your reverse psychology sounds like you are a real Flamer! I have been legally carrying a firearm for 22 yrs. as an LEO and an additional 7 years as a P.I.. When FL past the laws that allowed one to legally carry a firearm I also became legal again. I have never committed a crime. My brother who is a world class trap, skeet and upland game hunter for 50+ years. He has never committed a crime. Every member of my gun club in KY numbering near a 1000 men and women equaling thousands of years of gun use and ownership have never committed a crime.





Your answer wasn't thot out and over-whelmingly stupid. You shouldn't came to a battle of wits unarmed.
More and more power is reaching more and more hands.





Should everybody be allowed to carry a nuclear weapon, just because somebody else might be using one against them?





If not, then who decides?





Actually, I think the people that do own guns shouldn't and the people that don't own guns should.


That is why people that own guns are more apt to commit crimes with the weapon of power.
Gun control has done nothing to stop or even slow down violent crimes. Look at Japan, guns are outlawed. yet a Governor was just shot and their gun crimes aren't far behind ours. Yes I would feel better if more people were properly trained to use guns and were armed. I believe the criminals would be a little more cautious if they knew there was a good chance people would shoot back.

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